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Old Jan 20, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18   #121
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Newbie question here....For the Necro, I'm assuming that after you complete your litany of spells, your energy is pretty much spent. Is there an energy management problem if you go as an N/Me? Or does Energy Tap et al take care of that?

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My necro/mesmer has zero energy management problems at 54 energy/4-PiP's recharge. 7 Soul-Reaping keeps energy near full after every fight. Downtime is usually spent waiting for echo or spellbreaker to recharge.

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Old Jan 21, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #122
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Newbie question here....For the Necro, I'm assuming that after you complete your litany of spells, your energy is pretty much spent. Is there an energy management problem if you go as an N/Me? Or does Energy Tap et al take care of that?

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for the second build using inspiration, which i favor.... besides energy tap u have 2 interupts that give u energy!!! i never have energy problems!
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39   #123
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just wanted to tell you undead preacher that SUFFERING is very useful because that -2 health degeneration help take out easier the aatxes because for the only fact of being monsters they have +2 health regeneration
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #124
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just wanted to tell you undead preacher that SUFFERING is very useful because that -2 health degeneration help take out easier the aatxes because for the only fact of being monsters they have +2 health regeneration
I dunno about you, but the 55hp monks I go with pull at least 4+ aatxes for each aggro..... Suffering might be great when u have casted SS on ALL attacking foes but for my style and the monks I two man with.... after Casting 4-6 SS>>60-90 energy.... having skills that give you energy are more useful then suffering which cost 15.... I do however like to Use Desecrate Enchantments which deals dmg to ALL the foes as well, costing only 10.... I dunno.... I really don't think I could kill any faster.... Casting Suffering would actually slow things down for me seeing that 1 cast is equal in energy spent as one cast of SS.... SO against a group of 4 Aatxes.... I'de rather cast 4 SS then 3 SS and Suffering.... well actually I would cast 4 SS and Desecrate and they would be dead..... I could see Suffering helping if u lead off with it but its really not powerful enough in my eyes....

Monks like how fast I can kill the groups.... the reason I can kill FAST..... cuz I can get off SS on every attacker.... no need for another 15 energy skill in my bar! maybe in your build it works great... post ur build and we'll see!
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30   #125
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Hey Preacher, I'm like a really big n3wb and I was wondering if you can tell me where I can find the elite skills. Also I'm not sure on what Scar Pattern to buy. My friend told me to buy Scars armor from Droks, good choice? Can you maybe post a screenshot of the armor u are waering so I can see the runes you put in. Yes I'm a big n00B.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42   #126
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Hey Preacher, I'm like a really big n3wb and I was wondering if you can tell me where I can find the elite skills. Also I'm not sure on what Scar Pattern to buy. My friend told me to buy Scars armor from Droks, good choice? Can you maybe post a screenshot of the armor u are waering so I can see the runes you put in. Yes I'm a big n00B.
Elite Skills
- You need to BUY a Capture Signet from a SKILLS NPC, they cost 1k.... then you have to Know what Elite skill it is that you want.... for each elite skill there are different bosses that have them... you have to find the boss, kill him, and use the capture sig next to their dead corpse... your capture sig will then be replaced with the elite skill and its yours forever... however u can only have 1 ELITE skill in your skill bar at once

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As far as what scar armor to buy its really up to you and it depends on what kinda money you have to spend... The scars from droks has the BEST stats.. the 15k scars from grotto have the same stats, cost alot more, but look nicer... If you wanna see my armors I currently have 3... i'll post a pic in a few minutes... I have 15k Necrotic, 15k scars, and collecters..... I had droks scars but I salvaged it for the runes to put on my 15k scars.... I'll have fissure soon.... just really expensive and I don't really care for the looks.... My favorite for looks is my 15k Necrotic... I'll post a pic of the three armors!
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Here is A pic of my armor, rune, and weapon setup for this build....as requested! its 15k necrotic which is my favorite necro armor in the game... kinda think the fissure is ugly however I am buying it just to have it!
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41   #128
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Wow man thanks a lot! But I don't think I can afford 15k Necrotic so I just bought Scars. Thank you once again!
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Old Jan 24, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58   #129
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Wow man thanks a lot! But I don't think I can afford 15k Necrotic so I just bought Scars. Thank you once again!
no problem man... if you ever need help just whsiper me in game...
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Old Jan 24, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44   #130
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Good build, and I would most likely create a Necro if I had the spots. But couldn't you also, in theory, make almost the exact same build with a Me/N? And wouldn't it also be almost the same in effectiveness? Just a thought..
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Good build, and I would most likely create a Necro if I had the spots. But couldn't you also, in theory, make almost the exact same build with a Me/N? And wouldn't it also be almost the same in effectiveness? Just a thought..
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Old Jan 25, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56   #132
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where is the collectors wand and focus?? i cant find anywhere!
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Old Jan 31, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52   #133
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Outside dunes... i would have answered earlier but i was banned
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Old Feb 01, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #134
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Outside Dunes of Dispair, and north west from Elona reach
You'll need 5 Bleached *Carpaces* and 5 Jade Mandibles

They're the ones that you never saved from when you were running around in the desert
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Old Feb 01, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #135
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Old Feb 01, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #136
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SS/SV

Necromancer/Mesmer
Level: 20

Soul Reaping: 8
Curses: 16 (12+4)
Illusion Magic: 10

Spiteful Spirit [Elite] (Curses)
Arcane Echo (Mesmer other)
Sympathetic Visage (Illusion Magic)
Demonic Flesh (Blood Magic)
Awaken the Blood (Blood Magic)
Desecrate Enchantments (Curses)
Blood Ritual (Blood Magic)
Resurrection Signet ()



This is the build I have in UW with a 55 monk. Works everytime.
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Old Feb 01, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29   #137
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SS/SV

Necromancer/Mesmer
Level: 20

Soul Reaping: 8
Curses: 16 (12+4)
Illusion Magic: 10

Spiteful Spirit [Elite] (Curses)
Arcane Echo (Mesmer other)
Sympathetic Visage (Illusion Magic)
Demonic Flesh (Blood Magic)
Awaken the Blood (Blood Magic)
Desecrate Enchantments (Curses)
Blood Ritual (Blood Magic)
Resurrection Signet ()



This is the build I have in UW with a 55 monk. Works everytime.
I could use Arcane Echo and Spiteful spirit.... and leave 6 skill slots blank and it would work for 2 man run..... the point is to have OPTIMAL perfeormance... lets see..... why would u bring demonic flesh..... need more life for what, shouldn't be taking ANY dmg
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Old Feb 01, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #138
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build works great....just touchy, not much room for error, but hey "it anit supposed to be easy..."

very cool, adds a wack dimension to the game....i now am lookin at my beast master ranger/monk and thinkin...hmmm same idea, tank and damage from afar

unfortunally for me, my monk had to be coached a bit in the understanding that he is nothing other than aggro, and the necro is the damage dealer.....he kept bringing zealots fire...

he also didnt have any training as a 55/105 monk before we begin pissing gold away.....so far we are in the red, but everytime we try we are getting better...and all we need is one more ecto to drop (and they havent been for us)

communication is the key....

i had to tell him that the most imprtant thing is Protective Spirit, then Healing Breeze ,and spellbreaker fro the nightmares/etc....

once we got that out of the way, it was smite city baby

but we still have problems....havent been able to clear all the smites yet

hey Preacher or Sno, whats the success rate? say out of 5 runs....

do you die ever? or do you get 5 for 5 runs with no deaths



i realize that with experience.....we will achieve greatness
we are like 3 outa 5 right now



again thanks for the help and all that

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hey Preacher or Sno, whats the success rate? say out of 5 runs....

do you die ever? or do you get 5 for 5 runs with no deaths



i realize that with experience.....we will achieve greatness
we are like 3 outa 5 right now



again thanks for the help and all that

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Once your monk learns how to tank consistently, you should start getting bored of smite runs (not much excitement when you can effortlessly clear smites while half-asleep).
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Old Feb 02, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19   #140
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hey Preacher or Sno, whats the success rate? say out of 5 runs....

do you die ever? or do you get 5 for 5 runs with no deaths
When I do smite runs for fun I don't just do a normal smite run. I clear the labyrinth, then smites, then do ice king, then unwanted guests, then clear the vale, then wrathful spirits, then escort of souls. If we make it that far we just leave.

The majority of my UW runs at this point are with students or with rangers charming spiders, so I don't get to do these 'freestyle' runs often, but when I do I would say my success rate is above 90% for smites, and about 70% to complete the quests. When questing theres a world of things that can go wrong, and unless I'm with a necro who really knows what he's doing down there things may go wrong really quick.

If I was to take things very slow and carefully (1-2 groups at a time like 90% of monks you'll find do) I'm 99.9% certain I wouldn't ever die, but I never do, since it's an unnecessary waste of time.
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